Curse

sindex · May 17, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Looking through some of the statements about not being able to take over our toons to GW 2 and there being monuments to them; make things look pretty grim for our current characters. After playing Neverwinter Nights 2 some time back in which I was reminiscing about the grim and anti-climatic end to my character; I started to wonder, how the end of our characters get played out in GW. However A-net could decide not to implement a death scene for our characters in EotN, but instead have a regular melodramatic ending. Nevertheless there is still the possibility of this “death” happening, in which there is absoluteness to why our characters can not travel from GW to GW 2.

So my question if your character does end up “kicking the bucket” in EotN how will you feel? Furthermore if you could choose a death for your current characters what would it be and why?

EDIT: I think I have to clear a few things up.

First I am not talking about your death by mean of dieing and rezing again with DP. Second I am not talking about the servers going down in a fiery crash in which you can’t play GW anymore. Thirdly I am not talking about any physical instance where you can never play your character again at the end of Eye of the North. Take this quote I used earlier:

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Originally Posted by sindex

I’ve seen plenty of games that have a death sequence or pre-warn you ahead of time “this is it, no turning back.” Then after which you complete the final “showdown,” you go back to where you were before that critical point, but they still have labeled that you have accomplished that final mission. So your still alive but that mission just means the turning point of your character and that’s about it; you can still do stuff after you completed the game.

Again this is about the storyline and how your characters might die at the end of the story itself. However it does not mean that is the end of your character physically in GW but in the story that’s the way your life finally comes to an end.

Brianna · May 17, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Well Guild Wars 2 is 100 years after Guild Wars 1, afterall, so It's not really possible to keep them lol, I don't really think there will be a ''death'' though, just perhaps an end to kinda tie everything off, and that's it, i mean we can always come back and play Guild Wars 1 with our old chars

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Nuclear Eclipse · May 17, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Um I have like 1300 deaths on my character I really would not care... and plus it's a game, no one is making your play GW2, you can keep playing GW1 till the cows come home, so what is the point of this thread exactly?

Closed maybE?

Bryant Again · May 17, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

I'm really looking forward to Guild Wars 2 and starting on my toon's descendant, so I don't really mind. It's gonna kick-ass!

Also, the death wouldn't make sense and it would just be bad marketing wise.

sindex · May 17, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Nuclear Eclipse

Um I have like 1300 deaths on my character I really would not care... and plus it's a game, no one is making your play GW2, you can keep playing GW1 till the cows come home, so what is the point of this thread exactly?

Closed maybE?

In the storyline, they could possibly write off our characters if they wanted too. Of course I am not talking about how many times your died on your own and got rez’ed again. Hypothetically if they wrote “you died saving Tyria from the great destroyer in one final battle,” that is the type of death I am taking about.

Lord Natural · May 17, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I have no real sentimental ties to my characters. Besides, the character creation options are so limited that I end up running into clones constantly. I will gladly bid all of my characters good riddance, if it means GW2 not carrying over the classes which ruined Guild Wars. As for a 'death scene', I doubt the GW servers will be taken down anytime soon and I also doubt that EOTN will be anything more than DoA x 4, so the characters will still exist until the last person leaves grotto, at which point the game will officially die.

Spazzer · May 17, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

sindex · May 17, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by Lord Natural

I have no real sentimental ties to my characters. Besides, the character creation options are so limited that I end up running into clones constantly. I will gladly bid all of my characters good riddance, if it means GW2 not carrying over the classes which ruined Guild Wars. As for a 'death scene', I doubt the GW servers will be taken down anytime soon and I also doubt that EOTN will be anything more than DoA x 4, so the characters will still exist until the last person leaves grotto, at which point the game will officially die.

Again I not talking about GW severs going down in a fiery crash. I am talking about the storyline itself, if the there was the possibility of this happening. I know even after the battle, at the end of EotN there will be the option of playing your characters after finishing it. However the final sequence still could be kind of a spearhead in which it lets you into the hall of monuments for the first time, and checking in certain things that will transfer over to GW 2.

Good answer though to see you probably could care less whether your character dies in GW. That is actually the type of response I was looking for.

fgarvin · May 17, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by sindex

In the storyline, they could possibly write off our characters if they wanted too. Of course I am not talking about how many times your died on your own and got rez’ed again. Hypothetically if they wrote “you died saving Tyria from the great destroyer in one final battle,” that is the type of death I am taking about.

I just figured it'd be old age...

Does-it-Matter · May 17, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by sindex

Looking through some of the statements about not being able to take over our toons to GW 2 and there being monuments to them; make things look pretty grim for our current characters.

The world of GW1 will still continue on, ANet MIGHT (emphasis on might) add more content beyond GW:EN, but if they don't, you still have everything you already have. They aren't pushing a "kill switch."

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Nevertheless there is still the possibility of this “death” happening, in which there is absoluteness to why our characters can not travel from GW to GW 2.

Well, the real reason are characters can't crossover into a COMPLETELY NEW GAME is because Lyssa never managed to perfect the Time Travel spells. I mean, the last time they were used, bodies ended up with the wrong heads, dogs and cats rained from the sky, and the community rage-quitted.

All joking aside. The reason you can't bring your characters across is that it's a different time. As much Mending as we put on our warriors, I doubt even that will stave off the ravages of old age. GW2 is going to be 100 years in the future. It's a nice way to rewrite professions and mechanics (note: this is why you can't transfer armor, gold, weapons)

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So my question if your character does end up “kicking the bucket” in EotN how will you feel? Furthermore if you could choose a death for your current characters what would it be and why?

Do the characters need to Die En Mas ala Gwen in the BWE?

Who's to say that this multi-campaigned Expansion doesn't resolve the pressing problems beyond the storyline (Post-War Kourma and Istani relations, The Charr invasion, the Dwarven Wars, Post-Shiro Kurzick and Luxon relations, etc.) - Gaile and the Developers already said GW:EN will tie up loose storylines. So why can't our characters simply solve problems, life their life and then shake their heads at their ancestors 100 years later for getting into some new kind of trouble?

After all, if our characters die (without supposedly procreating) how will their descendants pick up said lineage (Hall of Monuments) and sally forth?

"Let me tell you a story about my Grandfather Morty... poor bastard smothered himself to death under a heaping pile of Troll corpses. What a guy!"

While I'm not a fan of "Fluffy Bunny Happy Endings," that still doesn't mean the game can't resolve itself without resorting to ".... and they all die, somehow."

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But to answer your question, of how I would see my characters dying?

My casters would probably simply grow old, perhaps take on students of their own, and try to put some sort of rebuilding effort into place in their choice of three near post-apocalyptic continents. After all, magic is about knowledge, and knowledge comes with time and grows, so it follows.

My warrior would go out in a blaze of glory, no other way I can see that happening. One doesn't spend their whole life at the cusp of battle only to fade from existence.

My Paragon would probably head into seclusion, trying to atone for whatever atrocity he did to the Gods that caused his powers to wan with every update.

My Dervish would probably return to a life of faith and obedience to the wills of the Gods.

My Assassin most likely would return to a life of crime, having had enough of "doing the right thing."

And my Ranger would continue to hug trees!

Satisfied?

creelie · May 17, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

I can just see it now . . . messages filtering through the mists of time, urgent pleas from the future, most of which read:

"Send more titles plzkthx! Love, your great-great-great grandkids."

I think my monk is going to wait for the work order from the Hall of Monuments before grinding any more titles.

Ouchie · May 17, 2007, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Well even if the end is death to your character - next time you log I bet you could go back with the same character and play somewhere else in GW1 Kinda like when an NPC dies you can still see them in previous sections of the game.

sindex · May 17, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter

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Who's to say that this multi-campaigned Expansion doesn't resolve the pressing problems beyond the storyline (Post-War Kourma and Istani relations, The Charr invasion, the Dwarven Wars, Post-Shiro Kurzick and Luxon relations, etc.) - Gaile and the Developers already said GW:EN will tie up loose storylines. So why can't our characters simply solve problems, life their life and then shake their heads at their ancestors 100 years later for getting into some new kind of trouble?

After all, if our characters die (without supposedly procreating) how will their descendants pick up said lineage (Hall of Monuments) and sally forth?---(snip)

Ah there is a problem there, in sense because we had a choice up to a certain point in whether we choose that final battle at the end or carry on, doing what we normally do. The campaign supposedly takes place several years after the problems in either Prophecies or Nightfall (think I am leaning towards Prophecies more). So could you assume that we could have wrapped up our doings in the previous campaign(s)? If this is so, then all of the post-problems could already been dealt with, leaving the future open to any type of possibility.

Hypothetically again; your character dies after the final battle, and he/she is about to go to the mists, but before they do they can establish a hall of monuments. Once the end credits roll you will revert back to when your character had chosen to take up the battle with the great destroyer. In which you can take up any unfinished business, that needs to be done in any of the other campaign(s).

Of course there is always death by old age like some of you explained.

I do like the answer about your characters futures, even though no real deaths were written in.

Star Gazer · May 17, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49

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Originally Posted by Nuclear Eclipse

Um I have like 1300 deaths on my character I really would not care... and plus it's a game, no one is making your play GW2, you can keep playing GW1 till the cows come home, so what is the point of this thread exactly?

Closed maybE?

rofl closed maybe? He was asking peoples OPINIONS. Just because you do not care about what the end is like for them does not mean that other people will not. Next time, keep your opinions to yourself if you have nothing productive to say, muppet.

ontopic: I think a big castrophe will hit at the end of EotN. They said humans are pretty much non-existant in the new world (GW2), so perhaps maybe a war in those times?

UnknownGuest01 · May 17, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

My necromancer will become a lich lord and get the undeads to build his undead kingdom.

WinterSnowblind · May 17, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

I really hope we see some kind of death sequence at the end of Eye of the North, as a sort of "To be continued" type of thing, but I don't see that happening, I think a lot of people would be upset by that, and I guess it would kill any possibility of there being any more expansions.

I just think seeing your characters killed off, attempting to defend Ascalon against the Charr, or something like that, would be a really cool way to end the series, and build up for the sequel. I'd definetely like to have some kind of closure at least.

TwinRaven · May 17, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23

As Aithne Stormraven approaches the Hall of Monuments, she feels the deep satisfaction of knowing that her memory will be carried on through children and their children. As she rests her hand on the smooth stone walls, she raises her gaze to the heavens; her other hand running through the coarse fur of her animal companion, Stinky the warthog. She turns away from the monument, knowing there is nothing more to be done and quietly slips into the darkening forest...and into oblivion.

savage vapor 33 · May 17, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

I can't wait to start all over again. Starting GW1 as a noob was one of the best times because you got to learn everything, and every single day was pretty much that new adventure and killing that last char on Altheas Ashes.

Of course I would have rather started GW1 with as much exp. as I have now though lol. That's why GW2 will be a lot of fun. Everyone starts out the same, it's just who can bring their experience to the table and become the best in GW2.

Father of The Son of God · May 17, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

I'd like my ending to show me swimming upstream, spawning, then getting eaten by a grizzly bear. Then spawning again. All filmed by a PBS-GW crew.

Diablo™ · May 17, 2007, 07:25 PM // 19:25

so much for the survivor titles... lol